Chapter 530 Calming the Violent Spirit (XII)

Hearing Carman's words, Winters also became alert.

At the previous banquet, the old man Hurd saluted all around, and many members of the Wenduoer tribe also stood up and returned the salute to him. At that time, Winters had already keenly sensed that something was wrong.

"Damn it!" Winters cursed, "The old man said they make a living by providing 'necessities' to other tribes. Could the 'necessities' he mentioned be a sacrament?"

But facing Father Carman, he showed a nonchalant attitude.

"Don't say it came a thousand years ago, so what if it came ten thousand years ago?" Winters asked casually: "What does it have to do with the current Hed tribes? What impact can it have on the present?"

Sure enough, Kaman took the bait. Seeing Winters' indifferent look, Kaman was furious.

"You...you...you are too arrogant! Infidel!" Father Carman, who had been pretending to be profound just now, had his emotional defense broken down again:

"Can't you think about it with your insensitive mind? The fact that a heretical sect that was recognized as extinct was found alive and well in a barbarian and pagan land is very important to the Grand Duke. Church, what does it mean?”

Kaman finished speaking a long series of words in one breath and his face turned red from holding back.

Winters once again showed the qualities of an excellent tactical commander, accurately seizing the opportunity for Kaman to take a breath and interjecting at the right time.

He corrected Kaman strictly: "Father, if I were you, I would not use 'alive well' to describe that old man Ayinle."

"That's not the point at all!" The felt tent was not soundproof, so Kaman tried his best not to yell out, and his voice became hoarse:

"The point is, we all believe that the Arians have become extinct. They upheld heretical creeds, were rejected by the Lord, and eventually disappeared.

"But the existence of that old man not only proves that the Arians are still alive, but also proves that they took root in this land not only earlier than you and earlier than me, but also earlier than the Catholic Church and earlier than the new settlers. It may even be earlier than the time when the Platuan people lived a settled life!

The more Kaman talked, the angrier he became: "I don't know how much of our teachings are mixed into the beliefs of the Hud people, and I don't know how much of our things are left in the old man's beliefs. You...you A pot of hodgepodge was brought to me and I didn’t know anything about it…”

"What's wrong with the hodgepodge?" Winters was furious: "The hodgepodge is the best!"

"Don't keep talking to me!" Kaman's back molars were almost broken.

"First take back your insult to Hodgepodge!"

Kaman suddenly tore off his left sleeve and wrapped it around his fist without saying a word.

"Okay, okay, okay..." Winters understood that Priest Kaman wrapped a cloth around his fist because he was afraid of beating him to death. He couldn't help but be moved to tears - of course it was the swollen eye. Quickly surrender: "Look at you, you are in a hurry!"

Kaman didn't say anything, nor did he take off the sleeves wrapped around his fists.

"However, don't overreact." Winters continued to test carefully: "They are all pretense... Well, they are all crafts that meet people's certain needs. Isn't it normal for them to influence each other? You pour wine into the water , then the wine and water will naturally mix together and become inseparable.”

Winters paused and said jokingly: "This is quite consistent with the teachings of the Arians."

Carman looked into Winters' good eye.

"However." Winters immediately returned to the topic: "According to your statement, Arianism has been spreading in the Hed tribes for countless years, which means that this matter is not a big deal. You don't need to care too much. ”

"No. It's not a big deal, it's because no one knows." Kaman said solemnly: "Now that I know it, it's different."

"What do you mean?" Winters pretended to be surprised: "Are you suggesting that you want me to silence you?"

"Yes." Kaman moved his shoulders: "Come on."

"What are you thinking? How could I do it?" Winters said with a serious face, and solemnly warned Carman: "Remember, don't make such a joke again in the future."

Kaman sneered.

"But having said that, I still don't understand. Even if you do, what's the difference?" Although Winters was the one whose facial soft tissue was more swollen in this conversation, he was also the one who controlled the rhythm of the conversation. He changed the topic Back on track, he pretended not to care and asked: "Arianism spread here thousands of years ago, so what?"

Winters joked: "Do you want to tell me that just because you know this, the Hurds in the Great Wasteland have suddenly changed and become believers in your Lord? At the same time, they have also become believers in the Catholic Church. heresy?"

Unexpectedly, Kaman replied with a serious face: "I didn't say they were all."

Winters carefully studied Kaman's expression to confirm that the latter was not joking.

"Is it possible that you are really considering...adding the Hurds to your flock?" Winters thought it was extremely ridiculous.

"Of course not." Kaman shook his head.

Winters just breathed a sigh of relief when he heard Kaman speak again.

"This matter can only be decided by His Holiness the Pope." Carman said solemnly: "Which Hud people are believers? Which Hud people are pagans? Which believers are heretics? Which are pure lambs? These questions are of great importance and I cannot make a comment. I must report to the Archbishop and hand the matter over to the College of Cardinals and His Holiness the Pope for judgment."

When Winters saw Carman's eyes, he knew that Carman's attitude was serious and unshakable.

"Friend." Winters sighed and rubbed his swollen eyes in distress: "You will cause me a lot of trouble."

"I'm sorry." Kaman lowered his head and his shoulders, and he said apologetically: "This is my duty and responsibility."

"Okay." Winters knew that Kaman had made up his mind, and he didn't bother, smiling and spreading his hands: "That's the only way."

"You..." Kaman raised his head and asked a little unbelievably: "Don't try to convince me?"

"Will you be convinced by me?"

"...No."

"That's it?" Winters sighed heavily again: "Who made me unable to convince you, and I can't bear to kill you?"

Kaman almost choked to death with saliva.

"But." Winters said seriously: "I also have a suggestion, I hope you can listen to it."

"I know..." This time it was Kaman's turn to sigh.

"Suggestion, just suggestion."

"Say it."

Winters pondered for a moment, and said in a restrained and cautious manner: "Before you report to your bishop, I hope you can first inform the Reformed Congregation that you will report this to the Cardinals."

Carman's voice was weak: "I have said many times that the Reformed Congregation no longer exists..."

"Reformed Congregation, Conservative Congregation... whatever name you call it, whatever skin you wear, no need to play word games, you know what I mean." Winters waved his hand and interrupted Carman: "I am just suggesting that you consult your 'friends' before making a formal report."

Carman was silent, and after a while, he He frowned and asked, "Why? I've already told you that the mission of the Reformed Order does not include preaching. The old man's church has nothing to do with the Reformed Order."

"How do you know there is no connection?" Winters said with sharp eyes, word by word, "You just said, 'I don't know'. You and I can find traces of Arianism, so can't the monks of the Reformed Order find them? How dare you conclude that the monks of the Reformed Order will not have any relationship with these Arian believers?"

Kaman fell silent again. After a moment, he raised his head and said, "I can't promise you anything."

"It doesn't matter." Winters smiled and spread his hands : "Just do what you think is right."

[Although it is often said that heretics are more hateful than pagans, the actual situation is not always so]

[Generally speaking, the Roman Church is very strict with internal heretics. If a believer is found to hold heretical ideas and does not repent, he will be sentenced to death]

[But the premise is that he is found to hold heresy and does not repent. In the era when the external environment is relatively relaxed, the Roman Church is very cautious and tolerant in identifying heresy, and as long as the heretic is willing to repent, he will be given another chance and will not easily kill people]

[On the other hand, when the church faces severe external challenges, the attitude towards heresy is no longer so warm and affectionate, and the means become It was very cruel]

[The book [Cheese and Maggots] tells the story of a believer in the 16th century, how he was identified as a heretic, how he was tolerated, and how he was sent to the stake again in a severe era]

[When dealing with offshore heretics, the Roman Church usually behaves tolerantly and pragmatically. For example, when the Portuguese colonists first arrived in India, they mistook Hindu believers for some kind of heretical Christians, so they were very generous (generous) and said that you just need to return to the right path and drive away all the MSLs. There was no shouting and killing, it was very rational (quotation marks), very tolerant (quotation marks)][(The quotation marks are in brackets because the quotation marks will be garbled)]